Adding bars to beginning of song

Suggestion:

Was thinking that it would be nice if we could add empty “leader bars” to the beginning of a song. I have found that some recordings start immediately at the beginning of the playback making it difficult from a timing perspective.

Also, having a recording starting at the edge of the track makes it difficult to create a region.

Thanks!!

When you enable the count-in feature in Capo, it actually does something along these lines already. Capo tries to figure out where the first bar of a loop is located in the song, and then generates some bars worth of silence before that so that it can perform the count-in near the beginning.

Unfortunately, this seems to be fairly delicate in practice. It seems to get confused in certain situations where you might have a loop that doesn’t start right at the beginning of a bar.

Also, as you’ve discovered, there can be issues if the first beat of the song is right at the beginning of the audio file. The trouble is that the beat tracking code works from the audio that it’s given, and if there isn’t enough “runway” at the beginning of a song then it might struggle a little bit.

For your particular recording, is the very first bar of the song at the very beginning of the recording, or are there a few pick-up beats at the start before the first bar, or something else entirely?

Hello Chris,

Well first off, I didn’t know there was a “count-in” selection/feature.

I looked, but I still cannot find that option and yes, that’s exactly what I was looking to have.

However, if I understood your email correctly, there still may be a problem if the recording audio starts at the very of the track.

As to to your question.
The songs that I have problems with, ie; trouble setting a region, are ones that have the first bar at the very beginning.

My workaround is to just create a region nearby, any size, and drag that to the beginning. Then adjust the end as necessary.

But the lead-in, would be helpful

The count-in feature is accessible from the metronome settings, which you can access in the PLAYBACK control strip. When you click on the metronome icon (second from the left), you will see the following settings where you can choose an option for your preferred count-in amount:

As you can see in my screenshot, I’ve set it to 2 bars worth of count-in. When you have an active count-in mode, and a region is selected, it will move the playhead to the start of the region and click for the specified number of bars before starting playback.

Hope this helps,

Chris

Hi Chris,

Yeah, I did find it after sending that email.
However I am not crazy about the metronome.

Personally, what I would like to see is just “blank space”, or the option to add said space of a given length, prior to the audio.

Now maybe having some type of metronome for just the count-in?? I suppose.
But I would definitely want an option to not have that during the actual recording.

I know,
Minor detail.

Still a fantastic product! :slight_smile:

One possible workaround would be to turn down the metronome volume to 0 in the mixer settings (also in the playback control strip) if you didn’t want to hear the clicking. However, you wouldn’t really have any way to know how much more time you have to wait until playback starts.

These are things I need to fix, of course. The count-in and looping mechanism needs work in this regard to add some flexibility and capabilities. It’s on the list!

Hi Chris,

So I tried your suggestion:
Enable metronome, volume at 0.
Set the count-in bars starting at 1,
Eventually went to 4.

Unless I am misunderstanding how this works, I see no difference.
Audio starts at the same place every-time, regardless.
I was expecting to see the audio shift (delay), based on the bar count.

But I don’t.

Again, probably user-error :man_shrugging:t2:

Thanks in advance!

Derrick L. Aubuchon
dlaubuchon@gmail.com

It’s more likely that there’s an error in Capo. Instead of replying to this thread, can you send the project file to support@supermegaultragroovy.com so that I can have a look at it myself?

Thanks!